御宅族教主的迷思 3-霸道之終焉
「御宅族」自「電車男」成功後便浮上水面,一時成為潮流用語,但我必須重申,我沒意把什麼人定義為「御宅族」,要當「御宅族」是閣下的自由。 如果認為簡簡單單喜愛動畫的人就等於「御宅族」的話大可跳過這個不看,但如果閣下認為岡田斗司夫的定義才算是「御宅族」,那麼各位有想過當中的含意或者要跟着做嗎?
「御宅族」在日本動畫同好中一個近乎夢幻的職業,有着頂尖能力的新人類,有高超的搜尋能力和解讀能力,如果潛力發揮理應受着世人歌頌,但事實上外界卻對這個「夢幻職業」就有不少負面批評,不事生產不擅交際是小事了,但甚至一些諸如繭居族,隠閉青年,色情狂,甚至如身裁等等無關痛癢的批評也加入去了?身為動畫同好是否會憤憤不平?那又為什麼呢?
警告:
此文為筆者個人意見,內容對現在主流御宅族有針對批評。如有不敬之處,請各位原諒。
宿命使然,後天的死穴
因為御宅族的宿命註定是在研究別人的作品,而不是產出作品。
他們要的工作是要解讀動畫,要是沒有了「動畫」這個前題,他們評不了。「御宅族」的工作是要釋破了其中所有符號後,來個地毯式的歷史評論,然後以此為正統,希望人們用這個「正統」來欣賞這部大作,其他的角度皆為「匪偽」。要是創作人稍為「離經背道」,就像初出「機動武鬥伝時」時便大加鞭撻,因為作品不是UC GUNDAM,不用米加粒子,更沒有了新類型人等設定,他們不容許超出他們知識守備範圍外的作品。簡言之,他們是在為把動畫當作一門學科來研究。
其實為研究而研究本身並不是問題,但把這些做這些研究人做的偽科學「神格化」卻是個大問題。
在動畫中考據的理論,很多時也只是偽科學,例如在馬沙之逆襲中阿寶在劇完前推回阿古哲斯,0083中的所羅門核爆,鋼之錬金術士的錬金理論也只是一堆「設定」,可能只是想在畫面易於耍師而誇大,而莫視現實,當中最經典的莫過於超人力霸王(鹹蛋超人)的混混設定吧,拿來說說笑還可,人創作出的東西有BUGS,並不出奇,設定有,劇情一樣可以有,何況設計的只是動畫家不是科學家,像柳田理科雄的「空想科學教室」來「博君一笑」還可,實不用出動「腦內補完」,想出一些連官方也沒有的偽似解釋那些BUGS來互相攻伐,上述娛樂而己,實在不必認真。
其實細心玩味,岡田「御宅族」定義,並不是什麼開天劈地的見解,更不是「御宅族」獨有,只是單純的研究方法學,其中以eliein小姐講的最一矢中的:「只不過是不同於一般人將娛樂僅僅作為娛樂,反將娛樂視為一種命題來做研究的族群」」岡田的「御宅族」定義其實是在形容那些會利用「論點,論証,論據」三段式的研究來看動畫的人:
在動畫中找到喜好的東西(尤其是SF的資料),確立了論點>
有了論點,然後找相關資料來考據的論証>
再產出其他產物如評論等的論據等証實知己的見解正確>
這個不就是「寫評論」的應有格式嘛?這只是一個要做研究的人「應該有」的素質。大締岡田提出這些理論,是用來偶像化動畫迷中的菁英,把他們「神格化」和「新類型人化」來抗衡當時宮崎事件對「御宅族」負面影響,情形就像當年的十字軍東征,教廷宣稱犯事的都不是天主教徒,是那些偽教徒一樣來平息眾怒一樣。
「御宅族」只是「一班將娛樂視為一種命題來做研究的族群」,沒錯,他們正正視娛樂為一種命題來做研究的族群,不是高高在上的教主。事實上,岡田式的「御宅族」正是這樣的產物。
把娛樂當成單純的娛樂,或者把娛樂拿來研究當成另一種樂趣沒有什麼不對,可惜不少祟尚岡田式「御宅族」的動畫迷只看到表像,夠格的固然被冠稱為「御宅族」,不夠格的也一律自稱為「御宅族」,因為夠「神」,甚至乎蔚為時尚,「夠格的」當然沒有什麼問題,問題是那些「不夠格的」。
考証成癖,動畫創造的末路
這裏「不夠格」是指想做到岡田式「御宅族」郤苦沒「入手知識」解構動畫的這派人。看動畫發覺自身資料不夠便去找,乃人之常情,因先天的不足苦無解讀方法,於是「龜」在電視前研究動畫成了指定動作,重看又重看,人人也公平得二十四小時,結果是可以分配到出外結交朋友,運動,認識時事的時間少之又少,導致日常的應對技巧,運動能力,對世界和服飾的認知也比外界嚴重缺乏,「御宅族」常說這些批評是外界人對他們的誤解,倒不如說是這種研究方式結果使然。
其實包括岡田自己,他本身不是為「宅」而「宅」,而是動畫這個媒體造就了他們,他們在「製造」動畫,這才是岡田那伙被稱為「神人」的真像。
就在動畫未進一步普及之前,他們己累積了大量的知識,岡田,庵野自己也是SF和電影迷,而永野讀服裝設計,他們把自己的知識和意念帶到動畫中,把動畫的可塑性和玩味性進一步提高,岡田有SF知識,於是發表了《皇立宇宙軍》;庵野熟悉用鏡方法,於是有了後期的《EVA》,永野讀服裝設計,於是有了後期的《五星物語》的唯美機械和人物設計。上述人物的知識是來自其他領域,並不是單純地只有動畫給與的。
對於其他有同類嗜好的動畫迷,在玩味研究他們的作品時,一早有這方面的知識,然後再找論證分析,再有論據來支持,這樣自有另一番樂趣。他們一開始用的已經不是一個動畫角度,而是一個更高層次,例如從社會學,歷史,物理或生物的高度,再以多重角度的來研究作品,看出來的,評出來的也會平衡很多,最重要的是那些資料能夠刺激思考,帶看倌進入另一層次,另一個世界。
上述達人的眼界絕不只限動畫一處,甚至在更遠的地方,但現在的御宅族做的郤恰恰相反。
「不夠格」的「御宅族」經過長間找尋訓練的結果,便是比外界用更多時間來看動畫,最後「進化」到只會從動畫一方面來吸取養份,也只懂得從動畫一個媒界看世界,迫於無奈遠離其他媒體。 生產商也看準了這一點,「宅向」動畫便應運而生。好聽一點是向前作致敬,不好聽的就是照抄前作動畫橋段,無他,因為只有這些,「目標觀眾」才會明白。
為了協助這些「御宅族」做「考証」,一大票近乎騙錢的精品便成為了「御宅族」的至愛,加上一堆又一堆的設定集,岡田「有着高度搜尋參考資料能力的人」這個有錢的便做到了;「對映像創作者所提示的暗號,一個也不漏的加以解讀與研究」在一堆又一堆官方設定集和網上論壇上的協助「用時間」又做到了;最後只要「加些少時間copy and paste」寫一篇不用花什麼「心思分析」的史料來表達「永不滿足的向上心和自我表現欲」又做到了,撈過「御宅族」教主封號也絕不是什麼難事,於是動畫橋段用來用去,為的就是來滿足這班人,動畫創作最後無奈淪為地獄式輪迴,成為了小眾的娛樂。
你能想像由以上「永不滿足的向上心和自我表現欲」的「御宅族」做出來的動畫會是什麼樣子嗎?
眾叛親離,霸道之終焉
只有「御宅族」才會明的東西,就像其他的次文化一樣,失去了普編性就上不了檯面。
「御宅族」標籤著自己,也給人標籤著。夠格成為岡田式「御宅族」的人,絕不甘於只當一個「御宅族」。其一,前述岡田講的只是一套「分析常識」,不是「御宅族」獨有,硬塞這套理論來神化「御宅族」,更把所有專業人仕套入「御宅族」之中,來壯大當時滿身傷痕的「御宅族」,「夠格」的實在不甘被利用;第二,如果指的是一般動畫迷等於「御宅族」,也嫌只顧看動畫實在局限了自己眾多的興趣,他們「用情不專」也使他們被排擠在「御宅族」之外。
對於其他有着不同意見的「御宅族」也是互相攻伐,互罵匪偽,不留情面。0079中的馬沙,在官方的設定是一位一流的機師,但其中一派「御宅」從動畫畫面中引設他只曾用一加紅蟹擊倒吉姆而己,甚至從所謂的歷史中推翻了官方的設定,當然可能是官方設定時的BUGS,但正統的保皇派和倒皇派便立刻認真起來互想攻伐。但真的要數的還有隨後的UC派的正統派,AC的匪偽派,新的SEED派等等,甚至真實軍事派和超機人派也有,為那些人設的設定當史料般罵得死去活來,罵對方不懂GUNDAM。其實只有富野和BANDAI一聲說「是」,各方也奈不了何吧。
動畫是一種創作,創作人可以從中把特定的訊息帶給觀眾,但觀眾郤未必一定要跟從創作人的意思來看,可以從不同的角度切入。「御宅族」提供的只是眾多詮釋角度的其中一個,而不是唯一,反過來亦不可能把對方打成為匪偽,為什麼硬要別人接受呢?
對於非「御宅族」的「外界」批評和攻擊,「御宅族」採取的又是鴕鳥政策,使自己進一步被邊緣化。宮崎事件,甚至有害圖書追放事件,外界對動畫迷一直存在誤解也並非一朝一夕的事:「御宅族」有着「不事生產,只會看動畫不理世事,「咸濕」又運動性能低下又脫節的傻傢伙」的評語,對着這些指摘,我也認為以偏蓋全,但一開始防禦守勢,連消帶打只用「打壓」這兩個字便否定了對方的批評,然後在各大討論區訴苦,而不好好反省自己現在為什麼有這個「口實」給人,也是智者的所為嗎?還是是一樣「以偏蓋全」吧。
批評的一方可能別有用心,但給與對方口實,自己也是時候「進化」了。
如果認為宮崎駿的動畫,是希望人們珍惜自然,有環保的意識,那麼閣下應該做的是多去郊外多做環境保護的工作,而並不是坐在家中考據那些作畫水準,但「御宅族」關心往往是後者。
就在下所見,現在真的不少作品和同人誌存在這些過份色情和暴力的情節,所謂的過份只是不必要罷了,情節必要的,無所謂,來個廿一禁吧,我也是動畫迷才不會迂腐到叫政府管,只希望「御宅族」也要有作為社會一份子的自覺,不要給「御宅族」就等同色情的感覺,事實只要我們一離開電視,還得面對各下所謂的殘酷真實世界,一副是不關己,己不勞心的咀臉,在這個世界只會給人膲不起。
慢著,上述所說的好像是把岡田式的「御宅族」和一般動畫迷的「御宅族」溝亂了?是的,無錯,我是蓄意的。
「御宅族」這個名字由出現到現在還不到三四十年,當中褒貶意思還未定形,這個字的用法一直在變。要令到「御宅族」這個名字有正面的一日,徒在動畫迷之間爭這個未定勝的名銜有什麼意思?請做一些被外間也認同的事,有意義的事;也請在被批判之時有寛容之心,走到群眾面前理性地解釋閣下的嗜好,「御宅族」迷動畫,和車迷,歌迷和戲迷,小說一樣,為什麼偏偏現在只會給人看扁?請各位好好想下好自為之,否則「御宅族」最終只會像末路的霸王,死於內憂外患之中。
相關資料:
御宅族的分析③進化論與既定論
御宅族的分析②語源演變
御宅族的分析①OTAKU
【唯心論】御宅族和隱蔽青年的分別 作者:阿唯
《動漫線》04年12月號-有山楓遇害事件有感──反思御宅 作者:惠康
-御宅族迷動漫電玩 繭居網世界
御宅族教主系列:(笑)
從紅學到御宅族,御宅族教主的迷思
御宅族教主的迷思 2-教主的條件
御宅族教主的迷思3-霸道之終焉
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令人無言以對﹐方能稱之為「絕」文﹔小澤大師這篇大作令百多二百名讀者啞口無言﹐無人敢增損一字﹐看來都算是絕品一篇了 ^_^;
這系列其實不錯,整合性高,又有條理,一看就知是力作~~
有關留言,或許等我來個暗黑研究吧~~~
會認同的,一早已經明白,沒什麼特別想說
不認同的,怎也不會認同,當然也沒什麼好說
「如果認為宮崎駿的動畫,是希望人們珍惜自然,有環保的意識,那麼閣下應該做的是多去郊外多做環境保護的工作,而並不是坐在家中考據那些作畫水準,但「御宅族」關心往往是後者。」
這句非常認同
ACG對現時「御宅族」來說只是為保完ACG本身而存在,就是因為這樣才會出現誤解和予盾,如果「御宅族」能夠把ACG所體會到的放回自己身上,情況可能會好唔同
就我個人來說,漫畫是我的老師,記得中三的時候因看了「冬物語」的感動而努力讀書,CLAMP的「REX恐龍物語」令我知道人生為何,台灣的傻呼嚕同盟的一句格言「因動漫而偉大」我很能體會,自己就是因為ACG才明白很多做人處世的道理(並非學校和家庭),能夠表現出個人品德修飬是因ACG而來,ACG才能洗掉「教壞細路」,才能令世人專重,「御宅族」不是應該為推廣ACG的社會認受性而存在嗎?相反,就是因為ACG的接受面–「御宅族」現在的糢樣,才會令ACG受世人誤解吧吧!
很好的文章[emot]good[/emot]
現在的所謂御宅(尤其是萌系御宅)很多時候只是吸收ACG帶來的五官刺激,較好的亦只能比較深切體會作品所載的觀點和故事性;然而實際用心研究作品產出的編寫觀感與人分享的卻是少之又少= ="
P.S: 狂寫《「萌系御宅」與「戀愛資本主義」之抗爭》中0_0"
嘗試對本田透的世界觀進行分析及對日本戀愛婚姻模式之變化
當然我會駁斥他偏執的觀點…
不覺意之間想到順便可作「日本社會」的報告功課XD
BLOG– http://blog.goo.ne.jp/qooalex83
暫時寫了第1部分 =3=
詳見BLOG– http://blog.goo.ne.jp/qooalex83
「萌系御宅」與「戀愛資本主義」之抗爭
──淺析本田透電波男觀點看日本人戀愛模式之變化
目次:
1. 外表金錢至上主義戀愛與其謬誤
2. 戀愛兩極化的原因和現狀
3. 二次元的「萌」真的能足以取代三次元戀愛嗎?
4. 總結
第1部分定位錯誤更正題目
(1.) 萌系御宅族三次元戀愛之閉塞與其謬誤
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Otakus can be treated as Advanced Generations resemble that in Pocket Monster AG. In universities, many otakus are found in fields of cultural studies and sociology, since these subjects provides otakus with a myriad of analytical tools, such as the cocepts of ID, EGO and SUPEREGO.
By the way, for otakus, the etymology of "OJA" in an Anime, Ojamajo Doremi (1999-2004) is worth studying.
sorry, since I have repeated my post due to too quick an entering step.
If we allow derivatives of the definitions of otakus into a new set of ideology, proposing a concept of otakuism to reverse the derogatory trend against otakus maybe a good practice. In order to do so, we need to:
1. classify the samples of otakus seriously;
2. study the flows of otakus;
3. eliminate fuzzy interjections towards otakus, such as deleting the domain of "hermit teens" from the definitions of otakus to avoid the wanton association of ignorant social workers.
4. more academic researches (publishing textbooks teaching ignorant guys of inspecting and investigating the context and philosophy of otakus and anime maybe neccessary, regardless its formalness;
5. Comparision between anime and reality.
eg: otakus VS 女王的教室
「事實只要我們一離開電視,還得面對各下所謂的殘酷真實世界,一副是不關己,己不勞心的咀臉,在這個世界只會給人膲不起。」
確實,兩個世界的相互依存才是真正的世界。
「只有「御宅族」才會明的東西,就像其他的次文化一樣,失去了普編性就上不了檯面。」
文化這東西,是應該相互尊敬的,相互理解的,「次文化」的說法本人有點不贊同。
Here I want to supplement a point regarding "otakus VS 女王的教室":
In 女王的教室, Ms. Maya (亞久津真矢), loosly speaking (i.e. take the domain of otakusim beyond anime) is a female otakus because she is feverish in education, having a sense of achievement and, the most important of all, spirit of study (研究精神). However, her GTO-like act is somehow bizzare and hard to understand, i.e. she has complex ideologies.
In summary, allow me to redefine otaku: Any specialist who have the spirit of study. To incorporate with confusiainism (so as to prevent MK bitches or/and bastards from calling themselves otakus and act wantonly), the spirit of introspection should also be introduced. In fact, I will be a freshmam sociologist so I will behave like Okada Toisho to teach others revolutionary otakuism with certain degree of cyanism.
Footnotes:
[b]1. [/b]
In 2007 HKASL E Section B #2 today, these is a question like this:
[u]Last year, you took part in an overseas cultural exchange programme. One objective of the programme was to introduce some characteristics of your own culture to students from other countries. Another objective was to learn how practice in other culture differ significantly from yours. You found this experience rewarding and you want to share what you learned with your fellow students.
Write an article for your school magazine describing one or two features of your culture that you focused on and explain why. Also describe how the feature(s) you choose differ(s) from what happens in other culture.[/u]
I choose to contrast Japanese otakuism (using the definition I have produced) with Chinese confucianism, followed by otaku stereotypes with the issues of ijimes and wanton overgeneralization. Is these any problem in writing such?
[b]2. [/b]
Yes. PC is a good rule to rectify bad ideologies. Associating otakuism with professionalism is good so that there exist more mode of profession, i.e. studying animes can now be treated as another respectful "job".
In terms of gender studies, males prefer materialistic collections while females prefer human-relationship hegemony. (Moe) Otakus manifests this difference, as many of their ordinary counterpart females are pursuing maturity (eg: MK港女潮流文化. This make moe otakus a little bit childish. To what extent do you indentify with this?
Note: You haven't reply the message below yet =.=
看看那些 moe otakus, 還不是買一大堆FIGURE,海報,電腦遊戲, 雖滿口都是什麼「純愛」,但那也只有單向而己, 所謂的互動都十居其九在[b]可預期,可控制[/b]的範圍之內, 這等同小朋友玩超合金,手中的超合金永遠是最強, 飛天遁地無所不曉, 直至另一新歡出現為止…..
That means, in terms of sociology, moe otakus are fond of [b]McDonloadization[/b] (measurable, controllable[b] predicable[/b]) with respect to consumption. They have strong sense of materalistic (binary) possession but lack initiatives in real world. The contrary happens to okadaian otakus, me too. Okadaian otaku (i.e. otakus who follow the style of okada toisho) are making every endeavor to improve their plightful situations of being discriminated, either by means of teitary anime production or theorization (i.e. making critics), which needs information-orientated initiatives I believe that you are with my line as okaadaian otakus too. AS to females, Human-relationship hegemony pinpoints their love-capitalisitc privatization of human capitals, which resemble the behaviour of 港女 (i.e. vain, picky, greedy). What okadaian otakus needs to do is contributing to frontier social science apart from their studies on anime issues (issue = liberal studies) and have some influence toward the ignorant, autrhority-resorting general public. What do you think?
Further reading from Format ACG:
[b]為何日本人害怕OTAKU?御宅族的日本悲劇[/b]
http://format-acg.org/anime/TOPIC-ANIME/otaku.html
In my UE Section B script I referred 單一價值觀 (monotonic set of values) and 群體排他性 (ijime) to explain why otakus in Japan are discriminated while otakus in Hong Kong are overgeneralized by associative-thinking (關聯式思考). 宮崎事件 is also cited.
First of all, thank you for your advice as to the nomenclature of otakus. Here is some supplementary points:
First, I call myself as a otaku by its loose definition – mania. Actually, I am regared as a game otaku only who has been writing 100 pages strategy thesis (as a project without cheat codes) on simcity in 馮漢柱資優教育中心 (although my IQ = 135 amd EQ=80 by rigorous governement psychologist checking during my P6 life, many counterpart in the centre (which is in Tsuen Wan, now being a HKEAA scanning and marking centre) has IQ and EQ > 140)Then, I realise that the etymology of otaku is rather dark, and there needs some revolutionist to reverse the bleak trend of otakuism, so I start calling myself as (pseudo) okadaian otaku (假借岡田之名,卻行全新社會階級之意) since F.5 writing theory about society (so you may call me a social science otaku, I don't mind since, true, the definition and the stertotype of scholars is different from japanese otaku,) Currently I am interested in gender difference, and find this subtle dynamic relationship appliable in discoursing anime. Also, I realize that the general public has wrongful stereotype towards anime, and there need a academic way to instill correct and positive (political correct) frontier concepts to them. So I resolved to be a liberal studies teacher and set my career as HKEAA subject master.
I understand the reason why you hate being classified as otaku – owing to its bad stereotype and the timid attitude toward trinary world (三次元世界), and what okada toisho has said is merely a rosy wishful thinking and neoliberal elitism (sort of eugenics). In fact, okada is but a cast in anime production. He even don't have the title of master in sociology, so he lack authority (general public like resorting to authority) and academic influence. Many studies in otaku tend to be infotainment instead of classic interpertation of textbooks. In fact, [b] academizing otakuism is the only way to overturn pundit's criticism and discrimination against decent otakus [/b] To what so-called "otaku" watching H (ecchi) things, let them stoop and die, but other okadaian otaku need to criticize and even exclude them (degrade them to moe class, not debase them). I truely believe that the reason why otakus are currently discriminated is NOT only due to ethnicity, but also the 苟且偷安, nonconfronting attitude toward everything. No wonder some feminist call their name as hikikimori!
舉個例,假設你見到一個中年胖男子,用「戀愛中」的眼神把玩著一個少女模型,正當他玩得開心,你這時偷喵他,你會覺得他有何反應?
1.唔理你繼續光明正大地玩,
2.還是縮都縮唔切呢?
The answer is both. In fact, to further assess whether choice 2 is valid, ask him why. An okadaian otaku (albeit carrying some moe characters) should explain, refute, introduce and/or rationalize his behaviour with cynical mood and without difficulty. If not, he is only a mediocre.
What is the difference between 動畫迷 and otakus? 動畫迷 (anime fans) are enjoying anime, while otakus, according to my definition, bear more tough tasks. They need to contribute to everything like the contributers in wikipedia. Moreover, otaku is a sort of profession with a difference. [b]Currently original otakus are classified as cast in anime production writing critics, while neglecting the acadmic ones, i.e. teachers who specialize in anime writng textbooks.[/b] So, as a otaku, I need to adapt to the transient society by adpoting different approach to study. Here comes some style in my writing. Issue-inquiring approach in liberal studiesfor project learning, and problem-solving approach in secondary school pure science reference book, are methods of analysis that most of the otakus are never used. Also, I have reinvented further method of analysis which can be applied to all fields of studies: Konoacoustic analysis (relating sound to biophysics), Ojalytics (using the concept of Hentaicity, i.e. extent of preference changes to explain the ideology flow), Script Programming (annotations), Doremotional Aanysis (classification of flow and concepts), Technical Aanlysis (a method of packaging new theory), critical analysis (臨界分析, for textual analysis), and Integrated analysis (a method of compiling textbooks). So you may say that I call myself as otakus because of career ambition, not due to fonding of animes. To me, anime is only second to my theory.
In sum, otakus need to be:
1. original (plagiarism kills creativity) (same as your article)
2. introspective (confucianism, meaning willingness to improve) (diferent name but in meaning, same as your article)
3. wise )[b]they need not to be elites, have enough IQ to sell their points[/b[) (they need to be distinguished)
4. spiritual in study (as a driving force for their hobby) (same as your article)
5. academically versatile while caring about society (different from your article) (in my definition otakus are bound to be sociologist, pyschologist, journalist and teachers)
6. sensitive to risk (different from your article, since otakus nowadays need to be decent)
7. impartial (since their critics need to be seamless without any partiality/ one-sidedness)
8. skillful (have their own strategies of organizational behaviours)
9. communicative (derived from okada's theory) (In my theory called aikolistatics, otakus are compete ispectors with reducible transitional surplus, i.e. they need to be omniphies interesting in everying as ordinary girls, trying to be deliberate, caring and emotional)
10. observant (scientific thinking)
11. Willing to do research and development
12. bearing virginity (童真) (i.e. they should be [b]resistive to hegeomony and hypocrisy[/b] from partiality and pundits)
Pure amd simple, my existence is to turn otakuism as transdiscipline studies, and reform the teacher by creating my thoery, OJA STUDIES. You can assess the syllabuse outline in my blog (Note both syllabuse A and B). (Am I rebellious enough?)
Now the otakuism is differentiated and biased. Once otakuism are prevalent in secondary school social science (arts stream) textbooks, the positive otakuism can be integrated. I believe the time will come some day.
a typo in my message below:
ispectors ==> i[b]n[/b]spectors
By the way, in mathematic worlds and even social science, anaylsis is going to replace synthesis. Analysis (eg: classification) is men's strength while synthesis (eg: gossips) is women's strenght. Synthesis in reality involve partiality while analysis requires objectiveness. So, as a corollary, otakus being discriminated is as a result of feminism and love-capitalism in which women who are aggressive have teen making every endeavor, including deploying pan-moral pundits, to maintain their monotonic set of values to facilitate their oligrachy of human-relationships by [b]gossips[/b].[b] The reason behind is the lack of communication between otakus and the ordinary girls.[/b] Moe otakus currently lack anaylsis so they cannot overcome discrimination against them. For some okadaian otakus including me, some cues about current otakuism has been found:
1. [b]Rigorous proof of otakus is not formulated yet[/b];
2. It is hard to serve an egoistic female;
3. Moe otakus is inter sexaully interdependent while women are intersexually independent, since many of them are not willing to be married while maintaining the friendly relatinship among the same sex;
4. Unlike Americans who respect indivualism, The general public ignore otakus' specific needs and thoughs. i.e. there exist strict moral controls as to how otakus are behaved;
5. Following-suit and resorting to authority is aikolidynamically feasible, i.e. saving transaction cost (in terms of economics), in asian countries, since they treat an individual as a member of families; (refer to family of straight lines in locus problems XD)
6. Japanese anime mainly consists of gundam series and magic girl series; however, japaneses like to teast male audiece who like magic girl series because they treat famales as as an inferior class. Therefore, moe otakus are bound to be discriminated;
7. Japanese pundits are "mobilizing(修理)" moe otakus only;
8. The foci of interest between otakus and girls are different (okadaian otakus need diginity, moe otakus need sex, girls need pragmatic interest from relationships);
9. japanese like doujin things rather than original though, unless you have enough identity in social stratra.
In fact, the loose classfication ot otakus is many, like the one attacted in 網址 in the title of my name.
True, like genius, otakus are being called rather than calling themselves. But before this is valid to be happened the definition of otakus must be settled. Since not settled yet, so sayings 咦?上述的中年胖男子,那會是OTAKU呀?can still be treated as an issue rather than a ironic fact.
a typo again:
indivualism==> indvidualism
Here I invented a proof of otaku:
1. If he is a mania, he is NOT an otaku unless he has a mibition apart from interesting in animes
2. If he is ambitious, he is NOT an otaku unless he has spirit of introspection
3. If he is introspective, he is NOT an otaku if he is a hypocrite;
3. If he is NOT hypocrtical, he is a otaku iff he is observant and have spirit of study.
So, NOT all teachers are otakus under the loose definition, especially when they are pundits who treat otauk=kidult. ALL girls who like gossips are hypocrites even if she likes BL and Welcome to NHK!. ALL moe otakus who lose egos in the pursue of binary love is no longer callec otaku (they are mere perverted anime fans) NOT all 創作系 otakus are true otakus if they are money-orientated (=hypocrisy), NOT all 情報系 otaku are true otakus if they don't know the mechanic of speaking (i.e. introspection) so that they make the general public misinterpret them; NOT all 消費系 otakus are true otakus if they only know how to satisfy their wants (i.e. lack introspection); NOT all 變裝系 otakus are true otakus if they treat cosplay as a means of human-relationship hegemony (i.e. hypocrisy).
> 現在事實就是otaku的定義各門各派都有極大差異, 如果數現在似乎「一般消費派」更壓倒地多喔,恕我悲觀, 現在OTAKU這個字已等同一般動畫狂迷, 要講正面, 除非你不是「otaku」
Oh I see, so alternative to being otakus, I can be a sociologist who bear more authoritarian power. Okada Toisho is NOT a sociology, although there exist some Japanese sociologist who support his theory. I am sure, when I gain fame in academic field, I must rewrite the definite meaning of otakuism. This can be done simply by applying the theory of stratarification in sociology and field theory to say that otakus are new social class in social stratum(階級). Then under the principle of communism otakus are ideologists. The author of a book, 老鼠咬大米, has even treat confucious as a otaku because not only he is "spiritual", but be has his own style. Actually, we may reinvent the image of otakus as stylistologists.
> 至於otaku怎樣可以和外界溝通, 三個字 「 OPEN THE DOOR」~當發覺得動畫不是唯一,那就有得搞了
Yes. I am doing in this way, as animation is second to my career ambition. Otakus nowadays need to read through their egos, relatives and even the mass media as their mirrors. My schoo's whole computer club member as IT otakus always read BBC, CNN, mingpao, Hong Kong Economics Time (English Street), Singtao daily and Appledaily. I seldom play games or watch comics/animes due to academic pressure, but CL&C, liberal studies and sociology really inspired me as to how otakus can be evolved. Ancient otakus are insensitive to current issues and only interested to anime, but now their apathic attitude must change or they will be supercede by pan-moral punits who discriminate them and even love-capitalised feminist who wants infinits human relationship hegemony. According to my reading habits, there are some books and magazines otakus must read:
1. Time magazine and Time Express
2. The Economist
3. Newsweek
4. Fortune
5. 明報月刊
6. 香港文學
7. 亞洲週刊
8. 龍應台 and 陶傑 's book
9. Books about confucianism (唯女子與小人難養也 XD), cultural studies (inc. 吳偉明), psychologist (who often treat otakus as EASY (思覺失調)), sociology (the social worker of which ofte tread otakus as hikikomori, NEETS and DINKS)
I wanna add my view into wikipedia otakus page but ignorant western manias deleted them and allege them as oroginal research. The ban of original research is indeed a stupid policy who block diversity of otakuism. In fact, the westerns wanna hegemonize their view as copyright hegemony. Current otakus need to breakthough this barrier by BT even more XD……
An typo:
infinits==> infinite
I am going to wrire a textbooks about otakuism and incorporate them in anime discourses. What to you think of the following draft of introduction?:
In OJA STUDIES Technical Analysis is to package a theory. Here various doremotions in the Anime system is discoursed using the framework of Technical Analysis. Similar to the study in Finances, analysis in anime can be classified as fundamental one or technical one, which bears different expository functions. Technical Analysis is incorporated with various methodologies of analysis in and beyond OJA STUDIES.
Anime is a popular term in the cultural studies. Its existence has been an entertainment, and its history is once an economic boosting spring in Japan. However, due to lack of academizaton of Anime system, the general public take playful attitude toward animes, which is different form what otakus, a new social stratum thinks. Otakus are hardcore in Anime System and they have more or less influence to the whole anime ecosystem. The anime culture is quite complex in Japan, and it sometimes involve ecchi and violent contents, Due to the selective taste of otakus toward these things, otakus in Japan are being discriminated. Apart from this, early Japanese anime system mainly consists of and developed from magic girls series and Gundum series, recently kuso series and gal series (which contain lolita, service, moe characters, etc) are also added due to the existence of otakus since late 1970s, the booming stage of Japanese Economy. The introspective trend in the aftermath of 90s Japanese economic downturn has forced the whole anime to evolve. The Otaking, Okada Toisho, and its anime production, EVA, in 1996, has revolutionize the whole anime system from S.F-kei to moe-kei. All in all, the phenomena in Japanese animation system influence other similar systems including Hong Kong.
Think about it
1. Why do you like anime? Is it due to funny, entertaining elements, or your own career ambition?
2. What is your opinion about theorizing ACG (Anime-Comic-Game) System?
3. What is otakuism? Is it worth studying in sociology or even in the interdisciplinary fields?
4. Are you afraid of taking animes in public? Why or why not? Is hegemony involved in that?
5. How to you collect your anime accessories? Is there a systematic way to organize them?
What do you think about the following theory?
淺談「日本動畫三波革命說」
shadowzo.mysinablog.com/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=530868
About 「論點,論証,論據」三段式:
Although I am an okadaian otaku too, I don't use this method. Instead, I have my own method to operate on anime: 「分類,樣本研究,流程分析,意識型態運用,議題探索」五層式. This method does not demand internal knowledges of animes such as its historical setting, but demand the interdiscipline association in that. First, classification of animes is actually an taxomony which can be treated as a real science which otakus can do. Second, sample analysis is not a statistical method but merely a textual analysis, the target of which is not to support one's stance (証實知己的見解正確) but for research and service to others, not mainly of otaku's own interest (在動畫中找到喜好的東西). i.e. otakus, according to my theory of technical analysis (similar to finance), are acting a [b]communicative bridge[/b] to the outsider of anime. In the course of sample analysis the anime-reality relationship has to be discovered. Third, flow analysis deals with abstract concepts such as calculus and preference changes in microeconomics. i.e. By flow analysis scholar-degree knowledge has to be possessed by otaku. That' s why okada toisho call otakus has "有着頂尖能力的新人類,有高超的搜尋能力和解讀能力" but he even do not have the skill (since he is NOT a versatile sociologist). Fourth, doremotional applications, or equivalently saying, ideological applications, explores (NOT argue) the possible ideologies appears in an animes such as feminism, lolicons, kuso and education. Thus, for my part, an ideal otaku is to write a objective-type graduation thesis rather than simply subjective critics. That's how academization of otakuism can be achieved. Finally, issue-inquiring approach in liberal studies is applied to otakus such that they must use their practical skiils/integrated analysis to handle reality problems associated with animes. Such training of though is enough to make otakus professional.
「不夠格」的「御宅族」:
They are those who are always doing fundmental analysis of anime telling what scenic points an anime has. They simply have enough BT resources but privatized them, i.e. watch anime only to expand their own ego and thus they are but hypocrites. They are prone to consumption. This defy the definition of okadaia otaku. Sometimes they may be productive, but actually they are counter-productive because they lack framework of analysis. To me, if you do not intent to be a versatile scholar, GET LOST FROM THE OTAKU WORLD! A real otaku should be independent of watching anime and have their own style of view as the division of labour. Acutally they need not read all th e scenic points in order to make a subjective critics, instead they should try their best to grasp the leitmotiv of an animes and try to present their dor(sal)-emotions objectively like compiling a A-grade report.
[u]A study question:[/u]
Read the statement below:
如果認為宮崎駿的動畫,是希望人們珍惜自然,有環保的意識,那麼閣下應該做的是多去郊外多做環境保護的工作,而並不是坐在家中考據那些作畫水準,但「御宅族」關心往往是後者。
What should be a okadaian do, either one or both?
[u]Answer:[/u]
Both. According to the pentalogy of analysis in my theory, the foruth rule, ideological applications should be done in action. An okadaian otaku should try to explain what enviourmental proection values does a movie "spirited away" has to the general public. According his own interest, he may explore as many scenic points in the movie as many as possible, BUT NEVER INTENT TO PRIVATISE THEM TO EMOTIVE AND PARTIAL OPINION. They should talk de-facto facts, not self-promotion. Otherwise, otakus may be despised.
Finally, there are some points to be amended:
1. 「永不滿足的向上心和自我表現欲」 should be altered as "have a urge to achieve self-actualization"
2. 「有着高度搜尋參考資料能力的人」 should be "information-seeking greeds" instead of really doing researches and developments for 「不夠格」
3. 「對映像創作者所提示的暗號,一個也不漏的加以解讀與研究」 should be referred as "cheking the marking scheme of a pastpaper without really practised them" instead of "interpretation and derivation of ideologies " for 「不夠格」
> 看友情動畫感動,那就和朋友多點出來聚會,
看到我們這一家,我會花多點時間和屋企人一起,
看到宮崎大師的動畫,我會想起珍惜自然,
看鋼之鍊金術師,我會想起人與人之間的平等,
Then you prefer associative thinking. No doubt, this is [b]fundermentalism.[/b] i.e. You perfer fundamental writing rather than technical writing. You afraid of technical writing becuse you afraid that otakus, if being so, will have no time to do another practical thing apart from studying animes. In fact, you are trapped by one pessimistic assumption: otakus doing studying in animes non-stop — it is virtually inpossible. First, Otakus may have their own decent career apart from animes, Second, otakus have another interests and they will try their best to strike a balance between them. I believe a true okadaian otaku is a pragmatist, i.e. they hide their true identity in advert time and possess normal identity in order to do other things.
如果是根據岡田的理論,講的所謂「熱情」,是OTAKU要解讀動畫的內容,而之後的是再把知識回饋到動畫方面,之後OTAKU要做什麼
Do their other duties, i.e. if they are student, continue with their study; if they are professionals, care about their jobs and family relationships.
如果跟據你的OTAKU理論,OTAKU真的會跑去研究和討論,研究要幾耐才叫透切? 天曉得但時間卻花了,而我相信作者不是要這些,是要你付諸「行動」去做,當然騙錢作另計。
A balanced otakus will do research step-by-step, not non-stop. If I would type my otaku thesis without even sleeping, that would be a practical joke. As to the extent of research, otakus should bear a motto "I already try my best, I have no regret at all" and stop what should be stopped if no further development can be made anymore.
> [b]動畫怎看也只是娛樂[/b],動畫中的情節,人物關係和技術,講得如何高深,也難免是[b]偽科學[/b]的一種,唯一真實,是當中「帶出的訊息」,OTAKU之所以被看輕,給人覺得不成熟,其中就是太過投入,[b]以為真的可以利用動畫中的世界設定來看世界[/b],投入到不能抽身影響了現在生活。
Dangerous! Your view may incur critcism from anime cast and otakus!
You are under a stereotype that "otaku only read from anime" which lead to misguiding conclusion. Acutally, people like okada toisho read a variety thing from reality adn their perspective in animes originate from perspectives in realty. As to Current domestic otakus viewing their own word by anime, don't be distracted – they are just the formula of writing a substandard , subjective critics of fundamental analysis, not really their attutides towards the world. If a scholar view their own world by only sociological figures, not only does their thesis written are rosy pictures but also impractical. [b]Otakus make reference to and with respect to reality. Without this step, they are not said to be 投入 but only 迷失. [/b]
By the way, [b]Animes is a visual art and visual liteature according to recent researches in liberal study. [/b]So your view "anime=entertainment" will becomes a outmoded stereotype. Never behave like girls who perfer overgeneralization by stereotypical thinking which bear partiality. A independent thinker – no only otakus – should be critical enough to look things in broad perspectives. Never trying to set limits to your thinkng mode otherwise your view will be partial. If art=entertainment, no one will care about its cultural implication so the form of art will be deminished by entertainment some day since cultural heritages are lost. [b]Mature [/b]otakus, or alternatively, geniune anime casts, are doing cultural heritages trying to discover and preserve as many cultural values as possible. You will understand this importance if you have chance to study cultural studies in university.
偽科學? Then you neglect a importance thing in scientific thinking, especially for maths: [b]deductive thinking.[/b] 「帶出的訊息」is a form of intuitive thinking which is not the core component of science. Any science should involve deduction under given facts. They are referred as inference. The improvement of technology is the result of deduction. So you may say anime is not a [b]pure science[/b] (social science), but the study of which is by no means pseudo-sciece. If social sciences are even pseudo-sciences, the physiological foundation of psychology which has biological importance to medicine, will become invalid and this contradict the fact that physiology is a pure science.
Get it?
I have seen their articles since they are my netfriends.
Up to here, the theoretical discussion about "What is otakuism" "How is otakuism" are enough. Maybe let's talk about the practical side of "Why is otakuskm".
In reality otakus are being discriminated. The reason of which are summarized below:
1. Monotonic set of values
Having monotonic set of values save transaction cost according to the preference theory of microeconomics. Also, the general public like to resort to authority. So the authority, like the prestigious scholar, dominate the definitional ideologies of otakus. Since after 1989, the mass media including popular magazine, Newsweek and Time, take pessmistic view to otakus, otakus are debased to perverts. Actually, the monotonic set of values is a form of majority-play games. To overthrow it new generation of otakus needs to have multiple registers, i.e. they need to be frontier scholars to rewrite such ideologies.
2. Feminism.
Emotive Females have infinite wants of human-relationship hegemony. They tends to play distractive allusions to protect their own egos driving others wantonly. They are said to be highly emotive. They also have infinite wants of materials and powers as their egos expands. This leads to love-capitalism. The existence of such form of feminism is a form of "the survival of fitness", the ultimate aims of which is to weed out 和而不同 males including otakus to monopolize the ideologies. This is said to be oligarchy of human-relationship.
3. Overgeneralization.
Hikikomori and otakus are hard to distiguish and easily overgeneralized by the general public, especially in China and Japan where intuitive thinking are abused.
4. Inferior Groups.
Females are said to be inferior in Japan. Hence, otakus who wanna be females by means of cosplays are teased and excluded by others.
What is otakuism? It is a ideological studies of the relationship and phenomena between otakus and society – a frontier social science in sociology.
Back to the classification of otaku again, here is a practical problem as a testing ground of my new theory.
I like Rozen Maiden, Comet-san and Ojamajo Doremi. But I am NOT a moe otaku. Why?
The reason is easy. According to my theory of doremotion, inspectors who like dorakonic (i.e. non-emotional ) components such as music retain its analytical mind while inspectors who like dorekonic (i.e. emotional) components such as the character's appearance tends to be differentiated by other's ideology. So a musician can never be moe. That is, whether a otaku is moe or not is determined by his orientation of interest. If he is technology orientated, such as the usage of Photoshop, he cannot be moe otaku although he draw CGs of female characters. i.e. He can be a ordinary anime fans. In fact, many anime fansm especially male, is easily influenced by dorakonic things such as material and music melodies while MK ones who touch bitches much perfer to dorekonic ones. So some moe "otakus" are actually bitch-liking MK bastards! If one like purely dorakonic things, he is said to have okadaian character, i.e. high IQ.
(MY IQ=135 as I like music rather than CG)
In corollary, the identity of a otaku depends on his IQ (and thus his preference)
The following is the theory behind communicative bridge of an otaku
The.re are many alternative methods of inspection of otakus. According to okada's theory, otakus have outputs. But it contradict that normal anime fans can also write anime critics. Therefore, okada's theory can only explain the ideal framework of otakuism. To remedy this, a new theory proposed by me is invented for the discriminant of a real otaku as to the writing style between normal anime fans and otakus.
Otakus are nothing special but socially independent stylistologists such that their styles are different from anime fans albeit their interests are the same. Heence, only by inspecting the writing style can we identify a otaku from the crowd for the following use (so don't say that the calling of otaku is useless):
1. Employment of anime cast
2. Excavation of cultural heritage
3. Resource-backing for liberal studies
4. Discoursing ACG Systems
I have many newbie theories in OJA STUDIES, some of which are useful in the field of otakuism, they are namely:
A. Classification of doremotions
(note: doremotion is defined as dorsal side of emotion, i.e. any ideologies of emotions that can be partitioned into emotional and rational components)
B. Doremotional-Technical Theory (also known as DT Theory)
C. Differentiated-General Thoery (also known as DG Theory)
D. Principle of Technical Anaysis (i.e. the contrast between Fundamental writing and Technical writing)
By theory A, doremotions can be classified as dorakonic ones (i.e. independent of emotions) and dorekonic ones (i.e. dependent of emotions). Ordinary anime fans are emotive such that their writing style tends to be lyrical and according to Functional Theory in sociology, their writing function is to socialize with others. For example, they may write a HKCE level composition or prose about the beauty of binary character or feelings. So their behaviours and essays are said to be dorekonic. Otakus specailize in material properties such as musics and sketching technology of CGs, so their writing style tends to be analytical and according to Objective Approach in methodology, their writing fuctions is to discourse and explain to others like writing expository textbooks. For example, they may dissect the melodical patterns and formulae of ACG songs or giving a detailed account of ACG settings. So their behaviours and essays are said to be dorakonic.
By theory C, ordinary anime fans comprehend doremotions of animes by intuitive generalization while otakus do so by deductive differentation. For example, ordinary otakus tends to summarize the properties of a cartoon characters before giving comments while otakus tends to carry out classification and inference of symbols as a method of scientific thinking.
The following theories are applied when they are ACTUALLY writing critics:
By theory B, normal anime fans care more about [b]dorekonic doremotional flows[/b] (流程), i.e. the storyline, continunity and development of animes, while otakus care more about [b]technical flows[/b] such as abstract flow concepts (eg: Coase Thorem 高斯定理) in microeconomics), production flow, direction flow (i.e. components of an anime) and [b]dorakonic doremotional flows (e.g.. the musical combination as a function 函數 of time)[/b]. Generally speaking, normal anime fans extract doremotions easily because the doremotions from their cared flow are directly available, while otakus extract doremotional with difficulty because they need external reference.
By theory D normal anime fans are fundamental writers, i .e. they write basic level of critics in simple format. What they do is simply to comment on storylines and accessorites products (eg: CD/DVD) and values of an animes. Surely a otaku can do so because it is a rudimentary step of writing. Otakus can have more variation of critics writing, e.g. in forms of proposal, report, thesis, etc. and they concentrate more on technology, montages, techniques and concepts. Their writing are said to be technical because their aim is to extract and [b]parse[/b] doremotions from academized media. Many of such techincal writing are commonly found in academic fields.
reference: http://www.cuhkacs.org/~benng/Bo-Blog/read.php?590
P l e a s e cancel 字數或字眼限制 as my messages are quite long so that I need to divide them into several components
(I don't know why brackets and the word p l e a s e are banned)
typo:
accessorites ==> accessories.
No further replies this time …. =.=
By the way, I am preparing a subject called OJA STUDIES which will be a virtual HKCE/HKAL subject some day. This subject is especially designed for otakus and discriminate against MK bitches and bastards which are the enemy of otakus.
In this subject, candidates are required to study the following general (G) and differentiated (D) animes:
1. Doraemon (G) and its related series of the author
2. Ojamajo Doremi (D) and its related series of Toei Animation
3. Pokemon (G) and its related series of TV Tokyo
4. Digimon (D)
5. Comet-san (D) and its related series of the author
6. McMug and McDull (D)
7. O Master Q (G)
8. Keroro (D) and its related series of Sunrise
9. FullMetal Alchemist (D)
10. Tsubasa Reseriour Chronicle (D) and its related series of the author and NHK
11. Disney Cartoon Series (G)
12. Black Jack (D) and its related series of the author
13. Rozen Maiden (D) and its related series of TBS and author
In the examination various doremotional questions are asked. For example:
What is the relationship between Political-Correct (P.C.) and Sister Princess?
Can you answer it?
If you find the problem above difficult, you lack okadaian character. In fact, the answer is not straight forward. [u]Reverse thinking[/u] is required, [b]i.e. you need to explain how sister princess is politically incorrect[/b]:
1. Sister princess advocate one-to-many loves, which contradicts one-to-one love mode;
2. Sister princess plays uniformal attraction and loliconism, which contradicts moral values.
Many MK guys are tricked by the word "correctness" without realizing the properties of animes. So this questions prove a fact again: to be an otaku high IQ is required. That is what current mass media neglects. In fact, if the mass media realize such, the concept of otakuism would have been extended to all walk of lifes.
If you always visit my blog you will find that I always call myself as a complete to[u]i[/u]toise, i.e. a complete inspector (NOT to[u]r[/u]toise!) According to my theory, otakus are complete toitoises having reducible transitional surplus, i.e. they are willing to share in public with comprehensive minds. Their ideologies are said to be complex as their eegos are hard to understand. [u]so love-capitalized feminists and pan-moral are unable[/u] and thus will not waste time [u]to understand them[/u], thus creating discrimination against otakus.
Apart from writing style, the attutide towards a song is also useful in discriminating otakus from normal anime fans.
Proof:
Listening to the following songs:
1. tsubasa007.myweb.hinet.net/tsubasa-movie_op_aerial_fft93.Mp3
If he is obsessed with the non-normative melodical changes, he is a okadaian otaku
2. tsubasa007.myweb.hinet.net/tsubasa_movie_jyasumin_fft93.mp3
If he is obsessed with the female vocal, he is a moe otaku
Further proof:
3. doraemonserv.googlepages.com/01.mp3
If one could conceive a instrumental (vocalless) version of this song from his brain. he is said to have high IQ.
Combined with proof 1, if both are valid, he must be a okadaian otaku with high IQ; otherwise, if either one is wrong, he bears okadaian character but not neccessarily otakus.
>老實說我才不會這樣做, 上述的作品我有看,但無興趣詳細研究下去, 我說過動畫本身只是我「娛樂」一種, 我有興趣知, 但無興趣研究, 當某一日「娛樂」也有負擔的話, 我會跳過完全不看的, 反正其他好東西多的是, 開工看書看戲打機時間點樣子也不夠分, 要分析的留給那些otaku吧, 我不是otaku,又忙到pk, 留番給閣下好了。
Thank you for your suggestion (ironically). Then I can separate anime fans and otakus by a discriminant: anime fantasy. Anime fantasy exist in normal anime fans who always treat anime as entertainment while otakus study them for practical use such as cultural studies thesis. Work hard! (For you, you are not doing paper works so you can enjoy anime without bearing any of the "responsiblities".
> 不要什麼都叫otaku吧…. 明明有「樂迷」你可以叫的
again, a otaku will not treat music as a form of anime fantasy, nor entertainment. It is because once they conceive their own music, they starts to concentrate on musical studies (NOT enjoying music ALONE). So they get specialized. According to my theory, NOT okada's theory that any specialist who have the spirit of study and introspection, they are striving for improvement (NOT 表現慾) and thus are otakus.
> 之前講了不下數次, 你的otaku定義和大家一般認知的有出入, 有能力的對這個印象不佳的字不會對號入座, 無能力的對內容不明不會加入討論, 到頭來兩邊都吃力不討好。
Really? I don't believe so. When I have the power of authority in Journalism, I can rewrite the definition of otakus by simply publishing articles via TIME, etc. So don't be pessimistic although otaku "is none of your business" (really? I don't know!).
proofreading:
delete the word "that" and add a comma in the following sentence:
According to my theory, NOT okada's theory that any specialist who have the spirit of study and introspection, they are striving for improvement (NOT 表現慾) and thus are otakus.
> 如果佢係文學鉅著, 就有所謂政治正確, 日本和香港都是自由社會, 這種擺明是娛樂的作品, 就不用什麼政治正確啦, 下下子這樣想,太沉重了~
I have a habit: trying my best to trick others so as to make myself difficult to understand. This ensure that I will not be attacked by feminism and thus I am treated as an otaku who have bad luck with girls XD
Otakus, in my sense, like critical analysis. (Okada is a bit lazy) That's why I treat them (for okadaian ones) as having high IQs. Critical analysis without bound have long been a game among scholars which they enjoy it. For me, even more doremotional problems can be conveived to train my mind so that I die hard:
1. What is the real meaning of hentai anime in microeconomics in terms of its etymology
(trick: hentai = preference change, NOT ecchi)
2. Propose a mechanism of anime teaching
(trick: you have to write a real subject syllabuse for HKEAA!)
By continuous thinking of such, generating topics for discussion is not a problem for otakus so that their quailty of writing is enhanced.
Neccessary condition;
They must be scholars concentrating on their own studies. If they like you who have to work on paper-otherwise things, then sorry, you will not have enough free time to think critically so that you find it as a burden instead of the norm to a be polific writers.
Here is a annotation of otaku:
御宅族(OTAKU、おたく、オタク、お宅):
一般來說是指動漫文化的高階崇拜、沉迷者或資訊通。本來詞語也可以用來其他方面,例如說「模型御宅族」、「草書字帖御宅族」,但日常使用時的確與ACG(動畫、漫畫、電玩遊戲)文化關係甚大。
有「御宅王」之稱的動畫公司GAINAX創立人之一岡田斗司夫,就試圖為「御宅族」定立正面意義,指御宅族是懂得消費,精通該專門學識或資訊,並有深刻見解的優良新人類。然而,傳媒和社會上一般人士,對御宅族的普遍定型是社交圈子狹窄,人際關係疏離,迷戀怪異或消極的行為模式,帶有負面甚至歧視色彩。
經過學者研究,認為御宅族許多時的確與現實社會有較明顯的疏離感,真正的情緒和自我並不輕易表露,彼此以疏離的態度交往,把認同對象由人轉移至電腦、電視、漫畫等擬像世界,由社會共同體逃逸出來。這稱為「膠囊化」現象。而膠囊化的形成,與社會主導權力對他們的異化、操控規限化之要求,所構成的壓力有關。
Source: http://www.cuhkacs.org/~syaoran/blog/read.php?58
What do you think?
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閣下對otaku定義的執著, 令人欣佩, 如果跟着做修成正果更是人間美事, 但恕我直言, 花時間為otaku正名只是吃力不討好:
看畢留言, 對otaku的建解也是建基於:「According to my theory」這四個英文字, 我愚昧地問, 一你有什麼資格, 二是建基什麼理論說你的理論比大眾誤解更正統呢?
無….只是循環論証罷了, otaku原本只是指動畫同好者, 直至第二代岡田出現, 但他的理論也受普編質疑的同時, 你有甚麼可以支持你的解說正統性?
或者這是個提示, 對一個族群的正面評價, 是要看他們做了什麼講了什麼, 而不是看他為自己定義了什麼。
若然要otaku有正面形像的, 猛說外界誤解根本是捉錯用神, 花時間寫多點對動畫如何貢獻社會的文章吧, 正名的, 跟本不用解釋, 因為不証自明嘛。
> 你有什麼資格, 二是建基什麼理論說你的理論比大眾誤解更正統呢?
1. I am a blogger in mysinablog. They will collect valuable blogs every year and publish to others. After then, I will have enough identity to influence others.
2. Orthodox Sociology and Psychology. Currently there is no thesis about otakus in this two fields.
> 無….只是循環論証罷了
Wrong. The proofs regarding IQs has its scientifc basis. Although I haven't entered CUHK yet, I will try my endeavor to promote the positive images of otakus in action.
> 但他的理論也受普編質疑的同時, 你有甚麼可以支持你的解說正統性?
Okada does not explain his theory and reinvent it using any orthodox subjects such as sociology. Apart from sociology, idiography such as 易經 (Chinese confucianism) also helps to support my theory.
> 或者這是個提示, 對一個族群的正面評價, 是要看他們做了什麼講了什麼, 而不是看他為自己定義了什麼。
Yes. A genius has his calling not due to his alleging as clever, but praised by others. Similarly, only by practice can otkus' positive images be built.
> 哦…當開山祖師都說otaku己變質的時候…一眾信眾還可以說什麼?
你的志氣令人欣賞, 或者真的有機會上到times講到otaku那就太好..如果有機會的話~
I haven't subscribe to TIME yet. Yet I can write to south Chine Morning post or even The Hong Kong Economics Times.
When okada say that otakus are denatured, what okadaian otaku can do is to believe in themselves and try to be independent of okada's theory, 自成一家. By this the values of otakus can be kept in vast variery.
> 同樣, 如果otaku的定義有問題, [b]我採用的是狹義otaku[/b]的話, 那之後的介釋便沒有任何意義..
If so, that is your [b]fault[/b] because you insist in your stereotypical partiality like the naive contributers of wikipedia otaku pages. A critical thinking person should be embracing different views instead of withholding monotonic set of values.
> 你如何令到你的otaku定義比社會甚至wiki上講的更有普編性和權威性呢? 兩者皆無的話, 只是賣花讚花香…
Holding a compaign in miniforum, then appiedaliy will follow suit to report so.
Or write article to the editors of the newspaper such as mingpao 論壇 section.
By the way, my theory is still compiling. So after the compiling the popularity should begin.
> 但我問題是:我正是在challenge你的正統性喔…直至現在你都未答, 岡田佢自己都給人在challenge喔。另點解我要覺得你那一套比大眾講的一套更正統呢? .講不掂這一點, 你之後的解釋都只是一堆未經認受的學說~~朋友~不要再來according to my theory這一套喔~我就是唔buy的~
Then p l e a s e pay heed to Ben Ng's blog. I will post 4 articles about technical analysis and animes wth otakuism in his blog. My theory may not be 正統 but 偏門 (since even social science have many branch and mathematics exist non-Eculidean gemoetry due to biased perspective . But I will try my best to make it popular. The essence of my theory is not orthodoxy, but diversity of vew.
Proofead: gemoetry==> geometry
By the way, allow me to disssect Okada's theory further by elaboration:
>有着頂尖能力的新人類
What special skill they have?
They have basic academic researches skills
They have the following skills as well:
1. Resistivity of feminism and love-capitalism
2. Introspection
3. Critical Analysis (i.e. posting doremotional questions)
4. Good command of Langugage (esp. English)
>有高超的搜尋能力和解讀能力
How do they achieve so?
1. Use BT frequently
2. Use WinMX frequently
3. Visit official site and doujin site frequently
4. Have a habit of collection
5. Striving to improvement
6. Read intensively (within Anime)
7. Read extensively (beyond anime, eg: sociology)
Furthermore ,there is a japaense test for the degree of otakus: bom-ba-ye.com/c.cgi?tcopuranai=1
What do you think of the following article?
doraemonserv.mysinablog.com/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=551017
> 其實為研究而研究本身並不是問題,但把這些做這些研究>人做的偽科學「神格化」卻是個大問題。
>在動畫中考據的理論,很多時也只是偽科學……
There otakus are defying okada's principle. Otakus are to produce objective and scientific technical writings such as report, thesis, proposal, news article, expository essays, description, NOT merely producing subjective critics which debate on the setting. Note that summarization and inference of anime setting obey the principle of critical thinking and thus they are acting real scientic thinking. Only ones who are acting self-fuifillment prophecy and ojogologistics (串嘴+ 虛飾) are acting 虛偽科學 (hypocritical science). A otakus hate hypocrisy, those otakus who are acting
偽科學 should no longer be otakus anymore. So real otakus are NOT acting 偽科學. People who are acting 偽科學 are fond of cultural hegemony (monopoly) which otakus hates. Otakus perfer diversity rather than monotonic-set of values. Otakus have critical thinking and seek truth based on research, NOT assumption.
As to what eliein小姐 has said (i.e. what you have quoted):
Lam's family are prestigious in the field of social science (me too). In fact, otakus from all walk of lifes do not have only 1 命題來做研究. i.e. If they treat animation as culture rather than entertainment, then cultural heritage and anime teaching emerge out of and to the general public's mind. For me, as a okadaian otaku as well as a freshman sociologist, I find many issues (命題) in animes:
1. Rozen Maiden: Darwinism, hikikorori, feminism, gothic lolita, Rococo, TBS
2. Comet-san: 橫山光輝, 鐮倉, ballet, 豐收祭, 九重佑三子
3. Ojamajo Doremi: babysitting, world peace, free will, ghosts, sex education
[b]Many of the issues involves the harsh reality problems so they are no longer entertainment but culture.[/b]
Typo:
hikikorori=> hikikomori
> 「霸道的終焉」就是不要為無謂的名號而糾纏下去,有關otaku的討論就停在這兒好了,倒不如做些實質工作吧。
of course. I am typing a article called 再論動畫的技術分析(1): 文本分析篇, here is some excerpt:
導言
有關動畫的技術分析論文可在此找到。
在動畫的技術分析大綱 一文中論及的樣本分析、流程分析和意識型態運用皆需要文本分析,即解讀各種文本並抽取重要資訊,並且把歸納所得加以推演,把其變成技術分析文本[附一]。其文在開頭說:「如何對萌系動畫作技術分析?」答案是要先進行文本分析。可是,許多時候要解讀的文本大多是基本分析文本[附二],要把其思想感情抽離可不是一件易事,但對於岡田派御宅族來說卻是日常工夫。本文作者身為岡田派御宅族,將分亨動畫的文本分析的一點心得。
如何通識地分析文本--議題探索方式 (Issue-inquiry approach)
樣本分析、流程分析和意識型態運用皆有既定主題,而這些主題皆可作為議題處理以便訂出資料搜集大綱,例如:
1. 樣本分析──小魔女 Doremi[附三] 的專題介紹
許多人以為樣本分析就是文本比較,其實這是文化專題探索:
a.小魔女 Doremi的製作班底涉及小學校長,跟其健康的主題有甚麼關係?
b.小魔女 Doremi的歌曲變化如何特別?
c.小魔女 Doremi為何要分四輯不同畫風?
d.OVA 是甚麼?
2.流程分析──Gal (「後宮型」) 動畫的流程 (flow)
動畫的流程分析大致分為三種:製作流程分析、方向流程分析和意識型態流程分析。相關議題如下:
a.製作流程分析:Gal 的情節要如何出眾?
b.方向流程分析:Gal 情節的表達時序要如何才恰當?
c.意識型態流程分析:Gal 情節需不需要顧及政治正確的價值觀?
3. 意識型態運用──御宅主義 (otakuism)[附四]
意識型態包含各種現象及其相關觀念,把這些概念歸納起來變成xx主義來研究方便意識型態的整理:
a.御宅族的字源學(etymology)是如何?
b.御宅族的定義是如何分歧的?
c.御宅族為何受到歧視?
d.岡田斗司夫的御宅族理論如何衍生(derivative)像 doraemonserv 的臨界思考者(critical thinkers--見臨界分析)?
e.御宅族的未來定位取向應該如何?
就著議題訂出資料搜集大綱後,只需從文本抽取有關資料,然後使用任何一種技術分析文本(例如報告、專題介紹、新聞犒、論文、建議書等等)表達其project 即可。在日本,這種方法許多動畫化project (例如音樂小彗星[附五]和薔薇少女[附六])皆有採用,只是分析結果的表達方式有異(符號 symbol),需要御宅族等評論媒介以文字解構(reinvent)動畫中各項符號
What do you think?
附註
[附一] 技術分析文本:泛指見解能獨立成家的客觀性文章
[附二] 基本分析文本:泛指引述他人見解的主觀性文章
[附三] 小魔女 Doremi :作者在正式的動漫畫理論中 (尚未公開,連結見此)(Syllabuse A Chapter 22)動畫的主線樣本分析共有13個:
1.多拉 A夢(一般性動畫)
2.小魔女 Doremi(分化性動畫)
3.寵物小精靈(一般性動畫)
4.數碼暴龍(分化性動畫)
5.音樂小彗星/彗星公主(分化性動畫)
6.麥嘜與麥兜(分化性動畫)
7.老夫子(一般性動畫)
8.鋼之鍊金術師(分化性動畫)
9.Keroro軍曹(分化性動畫)
10.翼之奇幻旅程/Tsubasa 翼(分化性動畫)
11.迪士尼動畫(一般性動畫)
12.怪醫黑傑克/怪醫秦博士(分化性動畫)
13.薔薇少女(分化性動畫)
小魔女 Doremi 曾在香港教育學院在一次講座中被播映作為動畫教學的藍本,可見其教育性意義之大。小魔女 Doremi的相關議題包括:
1.照顧嬰兒(Babysitting)
2.性教育
3.鬼怪
4. 世界和平
5. 魔法VS自由意志
[附四] 御宅主義:由 doraemonserv 創立的一門御宅現象的社會科學研究,又為新一派岡田式御宅正名。內容探討新一代御宅族與儒家自省精神、日本職人精神和研究精神的關係。它也是文化創造產業理論。
[附五] 音樂小彗星:動畫的主線樣本分析第5個;相關議題包括:
1.橫山光輝(Mitsuteru Yokoyama)漫畫史
2.鐮倉(Kamakura)風景
3.芭蕾舞
4.豐收祭
5.九重佑三子(Yumiko Kokonoe)
[附六] 薔薇少女:動畫的主線樣本分析第13個;相關議題包括:
1. 女權主義(feminism) (見 Format ACG: 重視女權的萌動畫–解構《Rozen Maiden》)
2. 哥德羅莉 (Gothic Lolita)
3. 隱閉青年(hikikomori)
4. 洛可可精神(Rococo) (from 下妻物語)
5. 達爾文主義 (Darwinism)
I have made HKEAA-styled test for understanding of okadaian otakus at http://doraemonserv.mysinablog.com/. You may try and report your mark and grade here. Ask questions if you encounter any difficulties in answering each question.
Note: I have coined many words here! Try your best to guess their meaning!
sorry, the correct url should be doraemonserv.googlepages.com/2112_ce_a_P2.html
Have your read 曖昧的日本人? In the book it states that Japanese does not allow the existence of indivuals due to monotonous unity. That means pluralistic otakus as a indivualism scholars (eg: they treat H anime as pure art instead of immoral thing) cannot ideologically survive in Japan. In contrast, Hong Kong has no restriction of beliefs so loca otakus including me is liberal without being persecuted.
proofread:
loca==> local
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